WG1 - Progress report

The most recent version has a new contribution from Greece.

The beginning of our controlled vocabulary is available as a google document on: http://goo.gl/eqGTye. The reason for using google doc is that we are collaborating with EUPORIAS, CORDEX-ESDM, and NPPC.

Notes from COST-VALUE, WG1 meeting, FAO, Rome

June 2, 2014.

Short introduction.

Douglas: NCPP downscaling metadata & the framework paper (submitted on Friday).

NCPP = national climate predictins and projections. One project is evaluation and translation of downscaled data. Building and supporting communities. VALUE is part of the NPCC, which is an open community that works with CORDEX and IS-ENES. Downscaled data sets. Telecon once every month.  Started a building a mind map. Classify statistical downscaling models + predictors and predictands. Some terms already settled as key properties. Settled: calibration: Perfect Prog & MOS (common EOFs - hybrid). Pairwise vs distribution-wise. homogeneous (bias correction) vs heteorogeneous. Still open issues: simulation, temporal treatment; spatial treatment; multi-variate treatment (make visible on the VALUE website).

Framework paper. Stakeholder defines the validation aspect. Take terms from the framework paper to describe/define. The challenge: be simple but precise. Avoid jargon.

Difficult to define who users are. Limited number of people who have the capacity to make use of the information. Hierical scheme. Advicors for decision makers.Different explanation for different categories of users. Use a spreadsheet. Make a draft to present at the VALUE Athens meeting in September, SPECS/EUPORIAS (Toulose, October)

Carlo: EUPORIAS (ECOMS) 2012-2017. Climate services (months to decades). Stakeholders and decision makers on board. Next: development of the prototypes (story lines). Identify the best practices. Downscaling of seasonal forecasts. Representation of uncertainty. Prototypes: resilience (wind farms); water management (France); Land management (cover crop in the UK); Transport (UK: road accidents and the NAO); Food security (Ethiopia); Seasonal river discharge (Sweden). Lots of misunderstanding between the stakeholders.    

VALUE should find a niche.

Metadata = controlled vocabulary (need to spell this out?)

Very fundamental terms, eg: (here is just a draft/suggestion)

Link to spreadsheet for glossary

Telecon with Galina. Briefing.

http://www.earthzine.org/2014/05/22/climate-informatics-human-experts-and-the-end-to-end-system/

ALMA

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Latest version of our white paper is uploaded.

A new version of the white paper is uploaded here, and Ole has added material (26.06.2013) (with some very minor edits by Rasmus 09.08.2013). The previous docx-file was not complete, due to problems with OpenOffice. New version is now uploaded, taking onboard comments from Heike:-)  

Most recent version of the white paper (Rasmus Benestad, 25.03.2013). I have merged the material from the documents that we passed around and the version on google docs - the word documents were mangled and really messy with track changes, many sentences no longer made sense, etc. I propose we stay with google documens (works on all platforms and saves past versions) and post a copy of the latest version after big changes (a copy is attached below).I have also added a paper by Racherla et al (2012) on model assessment, and there is a recent discussion on this topic in Science.

New member of WG1 (Rasmus Benestad, 26.11.2012): Dr Peter Braesicke from Cambridge University and representative from ECRA. 

The final ICCS2 conference report has been uploaded (22.11.2012). It includes summaries of the speeches and reports of the working groups. We should make references to this one in our white paper. See the ICCS2 web page for more material on the presentations and reports.

New version of the white paper up-loaded (14.11.2012). I've included some information from Finland and a paragraph from the providers perspective. Since the set-up we discussed is a bit up-set - there is difficulties deleting the old document, I suggest that you download the document here, edit it, and then upload a new version. I guess it's ok that we keep the older versions.

Some additional thoughts (05.11.2012)
Should we also include in our report some discussion from the climate modellers perspectives and experiences with end-users? E.g. discuss perceived gaps between what is justifiably provided and what is demanded? Do we think the demands are unrealistic? How can we find a solution that is optimal for both parts?

Report from WG1 discussions at ICTP 20.09.2012

This is a new wiki page/forum for work related to WG1 after the ICTP-meeting (20.09), summarising the next actions and the decisions made.

It was agreed that google docs did not work for everybody, but we wanted to avoid extra work trying to consilidate different versions and avoid loss of data due to corruption of Word-documents (track changes is notorious) when people work on different platforms. The most recent version of the 'white paper' was pulled down from the google docs and is posted below. In order to avoid parallel work, we decided that people working on this document download it from the link below, remove the file when working on it, and then upload a new version when finished (One may consider leaving name and estimated time spent working on a seperate wiki page). 

Andreas and Mandy join WG1. Rasmus include their e-mails in WG1 e-mail list.

Decisions:

Contact points to other WGs ask for membership in these WGs and have a responsibility to maintain a dialogue between these and WG1. Report back revelvant issues for WG1.

• WG2: Ole
• WG3: Andreas, Mandy
• WG4: Heike
• WG5: Deliang

Actions:

• (Rasmus & Heike) Provide input to WGs 4-5 about variables/indices requested by end-users
• (All) Review and contribute to the 'white paper' - this will be a contribution to the report D1. Once everybody is happy with this, we will distribute it to the other WGs.
• (Rasmus) Contact Radan (WG3) regarding D2 to input for a synopsis of the methods and validation inventory.
• (All) Review the inventories and end-user needs to identify obvious gaps.

 

We now need to provide WG4-5 with a list of variables/indices relevant for end-users for validation.  Please add to the list below, of comment on the suggestions that I've provided if you disagree. For instance, these may be:

 

WG4 - extremes:

• 98-th quantile for wind speed often used by insurance industry.
• 95-th percentile for precip (wet-day)
• Storm track density (important for wind and precip, see IMILAST - see accepted BAMS paper on statistics)
• Peak-over-threshold for heat waves (takes int account both number of consequtive days and magnitude).
• Frequency for weather patterns associated with blocking events (peak-over-pressure).
• Combination of dry autumn followed by cold winter (hydro-electric energy supply & demand)

WG5 -sub-daily:

• Intensity-duration-frequency (IDF) relations.
• Maximum precipitation intensity on hourly time scales.

 

Other roles - identification of gaps:

• Error bars and range of uncertainty
• Evaluation of physical consistency (RCM-GCM energy and mass budgets).
• Liasison and visibility (WCRP/CORDEX, JPI-Climate/FP7, ECRA, EMS, IPCC, EASAC)
• Help organising meetings.

 

Previous page - from date 20.09.2012. This page contains some of the material on which the 'white paper' is based.

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